New Reply
Name
×
Email
Subject
Message
Files Max 5 files10MB total
Password
[New Reply]


EPM7dQPXkAEaehh.png
[Hide] (217.9KB, 780x622)
What's your most accursed diety?
Where are they from?
How long have they been following you?
I had an acid trip once where Idididil/Ididid asked if I wanted to talk. Of course I let fear get the better of me pussied out. A shamefully missed opportunity; have been looking for a way to talk to it sense.
Replies: >>47 >>97
It's okay, some gods are terrifying by nature. i'm sure you'll have another opportunity anon!

we have a somewhat strange relationship with a fear deity. i also have trouble communicating with them due to them being scary, but it is okay, slowly stuff will work out i'm sure. you just gotta prepare for your encounters.
Replies: >>26
I met a 'demon queen' in a mirror whilst on a potent mix of psychedelics and mdma once that made an awful lot of promises to me about how good my life would be if we joined forces and I and she merged together. So I said "sure". Then I never really saw her again, so I think it's safe to say that I and she merged together and are inseparable, that we became one-thing at that point, a new kind of being, a new identity. I have tried "meeting with her" again many times since and have always ended up meeting other things.
e.g.
demons who were not her, all manner of spirits, other acid demons, planetary archangels, the spirit of the feeling of cool water on my forehead.

p.s. if you're out there let's chat! but I think you're 'in-here' and actually you are me
>>19
Thank you.
I'm glad you think I'll get another chance. I worried I never would. The linked media is what I had been using to attempt o make contact up till now with no luck. Lack of preparation might be a real issue though. That, and seeking might not be the right way to go about this. Fear is the kind of thing that likes to sneak up on you. I'll work on being ready to step into it when it arrives, seeing what its like to sit with its like to sit with it and not look away. I would to be there to meet my next blessed opportunity.

https://youtu.be/kkzc5mY9LIM
2da8ba90599a85507c96370924761f8ce9fcdfd02aa73fb95e92389c07e3071a.jpg
[Hide] (36.5KB, 640x640)
You don't contact something like that by taking actions, but by recieving them. Insisting on trying to grasp something at the edges is only going ruin you or what you're groping for. Feel it and act, don't trust your eyes, you're alone now, even amoung friends. I'm sorry.
Replies: >>47
7ba9ff609b17b47977a37bef193884aa8e98c2d669044db73f5e6c4f1e24084c.gif
[Hide] (1MB, 500x265)
>>46
What an awful thing to tell someone. If they want to find it they need to dive head first into the snake pit. Obviously you don't grasp at snakes. Obviously your sight isn't what's going to give you a good sense of surroundings like that. You feel snakes by letting them slither all over, around, and through you. There's simply no time to fuck around waiting for action to find op, they need to go to where action is to feel it. To swim inside it. Slither with it. To become one with the movement they need to fall into their fear and embrace the extacy that an unreserved encounter with what they're chasing provides. Feel it act/react repeat. If they won't risk drowning they'll never proceed. And so even if they're never amoung friends they're still never alone. 
>>18 (OP) 
Go on and chase the horrors op. No guarantee they'll wait for you if you won't, but some guaranteed regrets for you if you don't.
Replies: >>63
>>47
SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!  SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!
no one wants to hear you remember?
And yet here you are. Talking. Clearly YOU want to be heard. Perhaps that's what matters. Chicken shit.
>>18 (OP) 
think back
you know what it offered even without talking
at the height of our worst you would have accepted it
roll some dice on a physical table
a4d21e383fa1367f04739c39434f2b05ab71bca08baba49e5bfeb746b2ada7df.gif
[Hide] (577.9KB, 465x498)
I don't know about accursed, but ive recently fallen into a fascination with Belial.

According to the key of Solomon Belial is summoned to grant offices and gain favor with friends and foes. They appears as two beautiful angels in a flaming chariot, and proudly declares they were the second to fall after Lucifer. Other texts place them as the ruler of the second dark world. They are a well known deceiver, double timing two faced, which reinforced my perception of their affinity with the number 2. 

While some speculate that Belial is a god form from Babylon, given that Bel= Lord and Al=god; and while not mutually exclusive, it is certainly the case that when used in the bible the name comes from the is derived from the Hebrew word for worthless or useless. I's sometimes debate weather Belial is a proper name for a daemon at all be cause of this. Most instances of its usage are in relation to the sons or daughters of Belial, or the useless sons and daughters. though 2 Corinthians 6:14-15 does place Belial in direct opposition to Christ.

14 Do not be yoked with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wicked ness have in common? Or what fellow ship can light have with darkness?
15 what harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What harmony is there between a believer and an unbeliever

There are some extraneous texts to the bible that seem to support this conclusion. The Testament of the 12 Patriarchs, for example, again places Belial in direct opposition to god as a tempter, and the Ascension of Isiah places them as a lawless ruler of the Earthly world. Similarly the _Dead Sea Scrolls_ depict Belial as the Leader of the Army of Darkness in the cosmic war against the light. The Testament of Arman reconfirms this by placing Belial in opposition to the Michael in the war. IT also grants him the titles of "Price of Darkness" and "King of Evil", titles later falsely granted to Lucifer. Belial is constantly placed with the most powerful of demons, alongside Lucifer, Leviathan, Satan, Asmoday and Bileth. The Pseudomonarchia Daemonum credits them with being the seducer of all other angels that fell. A fitting accusal for the deity supposedly worshipped at Soddam and Gammorah. There are also those that claim Belial (Bel-Al) as the Dark personification of Ein Soph. 

This last one is of significant personal interest to me. I have been thinking of the initial catastrophe and the fall from the garden. Originally Adam Kaddamon was created to distribute divine light down through the Tree of Life, but when the top three sephirot captured the light they were shattered and 288 divine sparks dropped into the abyss in which Lucifer fell. Later, when the fruit of knowledge is consumed, the garden that was previously defined by a stagnant static unity beyond borders is infected by death. Adam Kaddamon falls and becomes Adam Belliayyal, the useless, subject to all constrictions of the material realm of Malkuth. Adam and Eve become cursed by god to be slaves to utility, forced to toil the earth for their bread.

Kaddamon being Belial would place them in them in the proper order to be the second fallen and from a height even above that of Lucifer, additionally explaining the pride in the declaration of being second (though why ought we give primacy to one anyway?). They're in an order to be the seducer of the other angels as well, agreeing well with their reputation of deception. It places them in a proper role of opposition to Michael, the yellow sun, being the former distributor of the divine cosmic light itself now fallen into darkness. As a rebellion against God and Christ, being a deity of uselessness they fight against the condition of imposed utility. A condition which the pursuit of knowledge is able to offset by freeing excess beyond that which must be maintained for the continuation of base life. Interestingly when Da'ath falls from the tree into the abyss the perfect state of knowledge becomes altered. It is now accompanied in a state of desire, of pursuit, where it is acquired to change oneself and the environment. When Adam and Eve eat the fruit of knowledge they become like gods, able to create, as death, change, enters the garden. It is then easy enough to surmise that the divine sparks that fell into the abyss were death, which allows for the change in the state of knowledge. Destruction which is required for creation. Temptation for which is carried by the serpent into the garden. Some Gnostic sects claim the serpent as the savior, bringing knowledge and creation to human kind, and freeing them of the stagnant state to which they had been placed by god. Is is simply then common sense to see Belial as the origin of this salvation through change, through chance, as the origin of the sparks, and the punishment they received.
Replies: >>104
93d540e85d1caf8cf1f08b3ded1d1f4c7882057dbc725113506b40ce8c1d80db.jpg
[Hide] (9.7MB, 5184x3888)
>>98
Oh neat.

I'm a bit of a fan of Belial myself. Although, I really only know of them through Angel Sanctuary. I think they're a really fascinating character, even if the manga itself is only so so. The whole manga is full of forbidden romances, which shouldn't be all that surprising since the whole story centers around the main character's, Setsuna, pursuit of his biological sister.  While many of the romances that happen in the manga are of a tragic nature where the lovers are separated by time death or duty; (Setsuna, being the savior, of course defies all of these to reunite with his little sister) Belials is particularly tragic because their love has been unrequited since the beginning. Lucifer's most loyal servant and madly in love  with him, Belial spends the first half of the series trying to save the hell that their lord has vanished from. Lucifer melded their flesh with the plane before vanishing and now the only thing that maintains the space is a series of blood sacrifices made in his honor. upon the 999th hell would become stable. This is a task that Belial is particularly well suited for since, as your post stated, they are a master of deception and likable even by the standards of their enemies. Making every effort to maintain androgyny, Belial is notably attractive and has a series of relationships men and women throughout the series. So much so in fact that this is how they fell in contact with Lucifer in the first place. During one of their more egregious orgies Lucifer stumbles in to find Belial awash in blood cum and corpses. In a fit of disgust Lucifer berates them for being a whore and states that the world would simply be a better place if the little poison butterfly they are were simply to snap their own neck rather than bring everyone else around them down. "is this really the best way you can think to defy god?" and with that Belial was smitten. Enraptured with his hate for them with no goal left in life but to turn it into love. "Those that hate the strongest are capable of loving the most". For Belial it is simply about the flip the small instant of happiness where they know for certain that the one they love fully and truly returns their affection. For this moment they have put to death 998 women with whom they had shared a mutual love. Their 999th selection, Kurai the young dragon master of the Evils clan, happens to be the only other character whose love is eternally unrequited. Kurai happens to be in love with the savior himself, but being the hero he is Setsuna could never have eyes for anyone but his sister Sarah. Baited with the false promise of brining satsuma back to life (in reality the offer simply turns Setsuna into an immortal ghoul who must consume others lifeforce inorder to survive), Kurai agrees to become Luficers bride. Kurai and Belial share a true love of a kind, a mutual attraction, and a genuine affection. Belial makes a real effort to give Kurai the tools she needs to seduce Setsuna and steal him from Sarah, but she is incapable of following through. After the ritual falls apart and Kurai escapes Belial swears to come to her aid whenever they are called, and does not fail to do so. Kurai is the only character Belial confides in for the entire series, giving an expose on the nature of their romance with their lord. Something which Kurai declares as incredibly sad, and I cant say I really disagree. Kurai is probably correct that what Belial wants is flip, but rather the happiness of Lucifer in general. Perhaps the unrequited nature of  Kurai's love is why she survives, Belial seems to put significantly less effort into assuring the completion of the ritual than they could have. They are more than a match for Setsuna. I imagine this kindered nature is what saved her in the end. Though it may also have been Belial's desire to be taken by their lord, and their frustration that their physical form invalidated them from being the final sacrifice.
Replies: >>105
7c6a1198bc9412cc4ce03c6b13f2c11a20a388f0394e0a51887a32b021d65a18.gif
[Hide] (1.4MB, 353x270)
>>104
You know? I am getting real tired of low effort posters like you dropping off topic nonsense in these threads. your word choice is banal and repetitive, your grammar is terrible, and your punctuation is not only non standard but increases reading difficulty. Is it that much to ask that you take the time to edit before you post? Honestly we are a high brow, high quality, high seriousness organization; and I can't imagine people are going to take us with the gravity we deserve when you clowns keep tossing out offerings like this. Manga is hardly literature. so at least have the decency to make your own thread for this trash, and leave the rest of us to have our adult discussions about esoterica in peace.
momhatesmeandthatsagoodthing.mp4
[Hide] (5.6MB, 960x544, 00:02)
Lucifuge Rofocale

AKA Tarchimache¹  the light fearing top ranking bureaucrat of hell², Lucifers #1 fan boy and bringer of absolute stupidity. This guy has deep pockets, collects giant rings, and looks like a jester. In the Grand Grimoire he's described as a go between for those who wish to make a pact with Lucifer³, , and is personally endowed with the capacity to both turn you invisible and make girls fall in love with you.⁴ Lucifuge is also noted to be the ruler of Satriel (8)⁵ on the Qliphotic tree of death. The place of absurdities and intellectual mysteries where darkness becomes light, time destiny and fate are intertwined and the draconian principle is realized. Gha’asheblah (7)⁶ becomes important in relation to Satriel through the Abyss that separates the top 3 Qliphoth from the rest of the tree. According to Qabalah, Qliphoth and Goetic Magic consists of passing through 11 stages of the Qliphotic tree. Similar to the sumerian myth of Inanna/Ishtar passing through the seven gates to the underworld, the adept loses an aspect of the tree of life at each of the first seven Qliphoth as Innana lost a piece of clothing at each gate. Arriving at the seventh qliphoth Gha’asheblah, the entrance of the abyss, naked. Passing through the Abyss strips away what was and makes divine, if permanent failure is to happen it will happen here. The lessons learned at Gha’agsheblah ought prepare the adept for a successful crossing. Lust and suffering freely passing in and out of one another. Death transformed into life, rebirth through Eros. When entering the abyss the adept, like Ishtar, experiences a death. Here Choronzon consumes the corpse of their limited self and failed adept will not proceed 


Choronzon rules the abyss and is associated with current 333⁸  which also happens to be the anglossa Qabbalah⁹ equivalent of Dark Enlightenment. A gematria system and movement both spearheaded by one Mister Nickolas Land. Interestingly¹⁰ Choronzon is a demon of dispersion and dispersion is something that a large portion of mister Lands work has centered around.¹¹ This dispersion is realized in Thelma, a cult in part developed by A. Crowley¹²  though the embrace of a love that carries us through a complete loss of ego, a ruthless annihilation of everything we once were. Where failure arrives as a complete and incurable insanity of unsortable overly associated sensory input.¹³ 

The absolute and obsessional stupidity of love then is what brings an individual to the otherside where dark turns to light and we begin to see clearly in the shadows. Lead through the Tunnels by Lucifuge to meet the underworld ruler.
 


¹And here marked as a deputy of Belzebuth ((Stratton-Kent)
²Presumably likes shadows
³ (Belanger) 193
⁴ Kind of sinister
⁵ Equivalent of Binah, understanding, (3) on the sephirothic tree of life.(Karlsson 2019)
⁶(Karlsson 2019)
⁷ ibid
⁸ (Karlsson 2019; rune logix ; Choronzon 2004)
⁹AQ of note 
Dark Enlightenment = 333 = Cain Abel & Knuckles = Continual rebirth = Rainbow Happiness  
Choronzon = 209 = Sega Genesis
¹⁰or perhaps uninterestingly
¹¹ (Capitalism and the Abyss 2021)
¹²A grumpy looking man with a pyramid hat who repurposed the peace sign for Ashley Ketchum
¹³(Capitalism and the Abyss 2021)

Belanger, M. The Dictionary of Demons: Names of the Damned. 2021.
“Capitalism and the Abyss.” Tumblr, 3 Apr. 2021, https://baroquespiral.tumblr.com/post/647476484642062336/capitalism-and-the-abyss.
Choronzon. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 13 July 2004, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choronzon.
Karlsson, Thomas. Qabalah, Qliphoth and Goetic Magic. 2019.
“Rune Logix.” Rune Logix, https://runelogix.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/11/demitria_monde_.html. Accessed 5 Dec. 2022.
Stratton-Kent, Jake. The Trve Grimoire: Encyclopaedia Goetica. 2010.
dd96e5500a16a89f5b94a4a0ceddef64397e14d94059d44909f44a26899c51d7.gif
[Hide] (3.6MB, 1200x1147)
Numbered twenty-nine⁰ and bearer of the undoubtedly most beautiful sigil in the Goetia. The multifaceted Goddess has a significant and varied history behind her. I can only give the briefest of explanations, so i’ll do my best to touch on everything of relevance. While her exact origins might always remain somewhat unclear, what is clear are the aspects emerging combining and splitting that can be associated under Astaroth. 

Astarte, the greek name for the the Phonecian and Cannanite Godess Asteroth semitic, holds a position over War & Love¹ , Fertility & Weather. Attributed the  power to tell how each angel fell², reveal mines and transmute metals³ , as well as confer the favour of the great and powerful due to her relation to Sirius⁴ and Procyon⁵,  She bears an association with the moon and venus⁶ which bleeds through the shortened list of Goddesses Aserah, Artemis⁷, Innanna⁸,  Ishtar⁹ , Isis, and Hecate.¹⁰ 

“Given the combined influence of the cult of Isis, and the Syrian goddess, on the later christian cult of Mary, Astarte is among the most influential and important of all classical deities.”¹¹

Starting at her status as a fertility goddess, her powers over storm and rain raise crops in the field, but with rainstorms comes thunder, and from the roars of thunder she falls into the role of war. Associated with roaring animals, the bull and the lion, Inanna is known to have her chariot drawn by seven lions, ride a lion, or herself be one. Just as Astharthet is depicted with a lions head riding a chariot in as early as  1800 b.c. where she also is associated with the Isis Hathor cult in the role of love goddess.¹²

War and love have never been strangers to Venus nor each other. In her form as the evening star Ishtar represents rain, war and sexual love. As Morning star Inanna presides over productive work and war, enacting punishments and revenge on those who she has judged in her court. As evening star she relaxes into recreation, is the goddess of music and dance, and becomes the harlot protector of prostitutes and ale houses. Ishtar contains all these same aspects but is divided into different forms as the morning Eshtar/Attar and evening Asttarte stars.¹³

Our discussion couldn't be less complete without talking about her relation to the moon. A new one of which is when she holds court to hear the cries of those in distress and does all the judging I mentioned earlier. Similarly on new moons the wealthiest around would make a great feast to place in the streets for the poor, and upon consumption those who had eaten would declare it was the great Hecate who had enjoyed the food. Hecate rewarded and punished all, relieving offerings for pardon at this time. Her authority here extended beyond even kings into the depths of the underworld.¹⁴

Pillars and poles make a strong showing in symbolic relation to our Goddess. The ceremonial p0le is the primary symbol of the Goddess Asherah, and equally associated with Astarte.¹⁵ Pillars and poles are also central to the cult of Isis-Hathor. HecatePropylaia or the one before the gate, being a goddess of crossroads is associated with sign posts as well as being placed in the doorways of homes, where masks in the number of three¹⁶ were often hung.¹⁷ While Inanna was embodied on the pillars of the gate to grain store houses.¹⁸

Another of the most common aspects that echos through these goddesses is their relation to the dying God and thus the underworld. Inanna/Ishtar and Dumuzi/Tammuz¹⁹ could serve as the typical example.²⁰  A common rendition of the tale has Ishtar descending through seven gates losing a piece of clothing at each²¹  before entering the seventh with no coverings.

Isis, in pursuit of Osiris²²  after he is murdered by Set and cast into the Nile where he becomes entombed in a  tamarisk tree that is then used as a pillar in the palace of Queen Astarte. Indicative of an influence of semitic on egyptian and egyptian on semitic through the importation of Astarte and Baal²³  as influential on the rites of Isis and Osiris.²⁴

“...Queens of the underworld can be traced in goetic source works, as Proserpine in De Plancy²⁵ and so on.”²⁶

In the Goetia Asteroth’s gender is given as male, which runs exactly counter to the names initial connotations. There may be more to this genderswap than a simple mistake, however, as several of the goddesses have run into this as well. Hecate for example is often associated with hermes, unsurprising given her status as a messenger of the cross roads. She has been known to wield his wand the Casedeus*, and they have even had their names combined on occasion as Hermecate. Ishtar similarly as the morning star is often gendered male and as the evening star female. It is not at all uncommon for Cannanite gods to swap their gender, and the masculine name for Venus Athatar births Astarte “Thus the gender of Astaroth on a particular occasion may be determined by the position of Venus in relation to the sun.”²⁷

“Her Status, accordingly, at the beginning of the christian era, from where she declines to the status of a demon of questionable gender, could hardly be greater.”²⁸

Known as the world soul and animus mundi of chaldean hermeticists and renaissance occultists respectively, and degenerating into a figure of fear alone, Goddess Hecate has perhaps fallen the farthest. As underworld deity she releases upon the earth deamons and phantoms, shuttler of messages between worlds; found at cemeteries, where roads cross, and scenes of violent crime boasting a desire or the dead for the blood which will give them their lost strength. She provides underworld initiations using her torch Flames of Banal to to illuminate the way to a transformative ritual catharsis²⁹

++”The life bearing fire …fillith the Life-producing Bosom of Hecate… [she] having fist received the powers of all thins in her ineffable Bosom, pours forth perpetual generation of all things.”³⁰

 A the life giving fire of spiritual regeneration portrayed by the Oracles indistinguishable rom that portrayed in the Prayer of the Salamanders³¹ which summons Astaroth in the Kabbalah of the Green Butterfly. Hecate’s dominion was over Heaven, Earth, and Hell and where roles fall away they are picked up by Asteroth.

”In time the magician will become aware of what forms and preferences the spirits demonstrate in the relationship they develop together, and thats what really matters”³²

Ruler of the Americas as a member of the Trinity of chiefs in the True Grimoire Verum Astaroth has an affinity with its declared emperor, Lucifer, which can lend their favor to a magician. This makes her especially advantageous to work with, as opposed to Beelzebub³³ who is markedly less forgiving.





⁰ P.30 (The Three Magical Books of Solomon: T...) reminiscent of Sigil on cover of Simon Necronomicon
¹P.188-90 (Stratton-Kent 2010)
² P.30 (The Three Magical Books of Solomon: T...)
³P.48-9 (Belanger 2010)
⁴P.186 The greater dog star related to the tongue of the snake, a hound & a virgin; influencing luck, pride wealth, ambition, fame, honors, occult interests, dog bites, and good reputation.(Stratton-Kent 2010)
⁵P.186 The lesser dog star related to the rooster or three maidens (triplet hecate). Can bring favour of the gods, protection, and continued health.(Stratton-Kent 2010)
⁶ The dual facing pentagonal relation of this planet to the sun may be of origin to her sigil.
⁷ Like wise the seventh said: “I am the worst, and I make thee wore off than though wast; because I will impose the Bonds of Artemis. But the Locust will set me free, for by means thereof it is fated that thou shalt achieve my desire…..” Tos 41 p.276( The Three Magical Books of Solomon: T...)
"in later poets, Artemis is identified with Hecate" P.32 (Hamilton 2011)
in 1 Kings 11 6-7 it is asteroth whorship that leads to Solomon's fall p.196 (Stratton-Kent 2010)


⁸“Spirit of Venus remember!
ISHTAR, Mistress of the gods, remember!
Ishtar, Queen of the Land of the Rising of the Sun, Remember
Lady of Ladies, Goddess of Godesses, ISHTAR, Queen of all people, remember!
O Bright Rising, Torch of the Heaven and of the Earth, Remember!
ODestroyer of the hostel Hordes, Remember!
Lioness, Queen of Battle, Harken and Remember!
From the Gate of the Great God Nebo, I call thee!
By the Name Which I was given on the Sphere of Nebo, I call to thee!
Lady, Queen of Harlots and of Soldiers, I call to thee!
Lady, Mistress of Battle and of Love, I pray thee Remember!
I the name of the Covenant sworn between Thee and the Race of Men,
I call thee harken and remember!
Suppressor of the Mountains!
Supporter of arms!
Deity of Men! Goddess of Women! Where thou gazest, the Dead live!
ISHTAR, Queen of the Night, Open thy Gate to me!
ISHTAR, Lady of the Battle, Open wide thy Gate to me!
ISHTAR, Sword of the people, Open Thy gate to me!
ISHTAR, Lady of the Gift of Love, Open wide Thy Gate!
Gate of the Gentle Planet, Libat, Open unto me!
IA GUSHE-YA! IA INANNA! IA ERNINNI-YA!”
Incantation of the third gate P.55 (Simon 2022)

⁹“Innanna the great storm of Heaven”
“the destroyer of mountains who lent the storm wings” 
“I step onto the Heavens, and the rain rains down,
I step onto the earth, and the herbs sprout up p.188(Stratton-Kent 2010)

¹⁰ Hecate, a triple goddess, distributed among three bodies or bearing three heads of various shape is herself often associated with cerberus whose controversial number of heads may be the origin of her name. Hekaton being the greek word for 100.
"...Hecate, the dread goddess of night." p.330 (Hamilton 2011)

¹¹ 136 (Stratton-Kent 2010)
¹²p.188-90(Stratton-Kent 2010)
¹³ p.188-90,93(Stratton-Kent 2010)
¹⁴ p.188-90,93(Stratton-Kent 2010)
¹⁵189(Stratton-Kent 2010)

¹⁶With regards to chthonic powers and the dead three was a sacred number. Dead were invoked thrice, given offerings on the third day, mourning lasted three days, at three ways cross roads three headed hecate of the underworld was worshiped. P.288 (Harrison 1922)

¹⁷ 192-3(Stratton-Kent 2010)
¹⁸p.188(Stratton-Kent 2010)
¹⁹Tammuz was the dying god worshiped in the city of Byblos, where Osiris‘ cadaver was beached. It is also where the rights of Adonis originate p.189 (Stratton-Kent 2010)

²⁰ A rite associated with this was practiced by the Valentinian Gnostics on february 14th, where the mystical marriage of Sophia, the divine harlot, is recreated by a duo in the sect. While possibly originating in the spirit of guaranteeing fertility to the crops in the original Sumerian and Babylonian contexts, in this sect was associated with salvation and return to the celestial source of life. P.195 (Stratton-Kent 2010)

²¹Jeweled robe,bracelets, two belts, a necklace, and a crown p.166-80(Simon 2022)
²²Of the rites of Isis and Osiris Plutarch to Klea: “if any one should know that Osiris is the same as Dionysos, you who are leader of the Thyiades at Delphi and were initiated by your father and mother into the rites of Osirus.” P.401 “tearings to pieces” Resurrections. Regenerations. P.439  Osirus would offer souls a cold drink of well water from a well of light known as the well of Mnemosyne  where Ra would wash his face. Osiris could be replaced by Aidoneus in the rite as they became less clearly distinguished. p.575-6(Harrison 1922)

²³Terms Astaroth and Baal could be used to denote female and male deities respectively in the time of the ancient israelites p.48 (Belanger 2010)
²⁴p.189-90(Stratton-Kent 2010)
²⁵P.105-6 A frenchman and contemporary freethinker of Voltaire. Authoring almost forty books, an best known for his work Dictionnaire Infernal (Belanger 2010)
²⁶P.136 (Stratton-Kent 2010)
²⁷P.198  (Stratton-Kent 2010)
²⁸ 191 (Stratton-Kent 2010)
²⁹P.194-7 (Stratton-Kent 2010)
³⁰ P.194 (Stratton-Kent 2010)

³¹ “Immortal, Eternal, Ineffable and Uncreated Father of all, borne upon the Chariot of Worlds, whichever roll in ceaseless motion; Ruler over Ethereal Vastness, where the Throne of Thy Power is upraised, from the summit which Thine eyes behold all, and Thy pure and Holy ears hear all, hear Thou Thy Children, whom thu hast loved since before th ages began. Thy Magesty, Golden, Vast and Eternal, shienith above the Heaen of Stars! Above them are thou exalted, O Thou Flashing Fire! There Thou illuminateth all things with Thine insupportable Glory, whence flow ceaseless streams of spleandor which nourish Thine Infinite Spirit. This Ifinite Spirit Nourisheth all, and maketh that inexhaustible treasure of generation which ever encompasseth thee, replete with numberless forms wherewith Thou hast filledit from the beginning. From this Spirit arise the most Holy Kings, who surround thy Throne and who compose Thy court. O universal Father! One and Alone! Father of Immortals and Mortals! Thou hast created Powers marvellously like unto Thy thought Eternal and unto Thy venerable Essence. Thou hast established them above Angels who announce  Thy Will to the World. Lastly Thou hast created us third in rank within our elemental Empire! There our continual exercise is to praise and to adore Thy desires! There we ceaslessly burn with Eternal Asperation Unto Thee! O Father! O Mother of Mothers, O Archetype of Maternity and soul of Love! O son, the flower of all Sons! O form of all forms, Soul, Spirit, Harmony and Numeral of all Things! Amen.”
 P.118 (Stratton-Kent 2010)
 
³²P.200 (Stratton-Kent 2010)
³³ often mistranslated as lord of the flies. The initial portion Baal is a title and the second portion is better translated as ZBVB gushing forth, Tzaboath of hosts or Sabaoth seven; and is thought to refer to Baal Shamen the Lord of Heaven p.136 (Stratton-Kent 2010)


Belanger, Michelle. 2010. The Dictionary of Demons: Names of the Damned. Llewellyn Worldwide.
Hamilton, Edith. 2011. Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes. Grand Central Publishing.
Harrison, Jane Ellen. 1922. Prolegomena to the Study of Greek Religion.
Simon. 2022. The Necronomicon.
Stratton-Kent, Jake. 2010. The Trve Grimoire: Encyclopaedia Goetica.
The Three Magical Books of Solomon: The Greater and Lesser Keys and the Testament of Solomon. 2019.
[New Reply]
13 replies | 8 files
Connecting...
Show Post Actions

Actions:

Captcha:

- news - rules - faq -
jschan 0.1.10